Beyond the Boundaries: A Group Relations Podcast
This podcast, sponsored by Group Relations International (Grouprelations.org), an organization dedicated to serving as a home for people who have experienced the power of group relations work, particularly in combination with spirituality and social justice, was created to provide listeners with an alternative way to interact with Group Relations content, hear perspectives from seasoned Group Relations folks and people new to the work as well. Our vision was to continue our exploration of ”the work” we typical do in Group Relations Conferences in an alternative format that falls outside the typical boundaries of a Group Relations conference. Beyond the Boundaries is hosted by four GRI Co-creators, Emmanuel Molin, Amber Williams, Rod Smith, and Lauren Levy. Join us as we travel Beyond the Boundaries, together.
Episodes

Monday Apr 29, 2024
Episode 7: The AKRI Reparations Committee
Monday Apr 29, 2024
Monday Apr 29, 2024
This episode features an interview with the AKRI Reparations Committee. Isabelle Reiniger is a licensed clinical social worker in full-time psychotherapy and consulting practice in Evanston, IL. Janice Wagner, LICSW is in Private Practice offering Psychotherapy, Consultation and Clinical Supervision in Boston. Minnie Tao is a therapist in a group private practice. In addition to being AKRI members, Isabelle, Janice and Minnie are also GRI Co-Creators. In this interview, Isabelle, Janice, Minnie and I discuss their group relations origins, the impetus for the formation of the Reparations Committee, and their committee work and interpersonal dynamics as they relate to work styles, gender, race and culture. The conversation is introspective, lively, fun, and interesting and it offers our listeners insight into the important work that the Reparations Committee has done on behalf of AKRI.

Tuesday Apr 16, 2024
Episode 6: mak wemuk
Tuesday Apr 16, 2024
Tuesday Apr 16, 2024
mak wemuk (he/him) operates and owns Luna Consulting & Coaching and consults and coaches in a variety of domains related to health and racial equity and social justice. He is a Co-Creator of GRI and is VP of the Washington-Baltimore Center and a member of centers in Boston and Chicago. mak wemuk has staffed over 60 conferences, directed 8 and is the weekend conference director for the Boston Center. He is also the Associate Director for the 2024 AKRI National Conference. mak wemuk and I talk about his group relations work origins and his hiatus from and return to conference work. We discuss the complexities of leadership, the impact of ego and ambition and our shared history of the Northwestern University group relations conferences. He also has a very interesting metaphor for his relationship to group relations work!

Tuesday Apr 02, 2024
Episode 5: Evangeline Sarda
Tuesday Apr 02, 2024
Tuesday Apr 02, 2024
The guest interview for this episode is with Evangeline Sarda, JD. Evangeline (she, her, hers) is an Associate Clinical Law Professor at Boston College Law School. She is a co-creator of Group Relations International (GRI) and a Fellow of the A. K. Rice Institute for the Study of Social Systems (AKRI) and she was also a guest on Season 1 of the podcast. Evangeline has directed and consulted at many group relations conferences and will be directing the A. K. Rice institute's 2024 National Conference. In our conversation Evangeline and I discussed her group relations origins and influences, her personal narratives regarding race and culture, and her continued commitment to doing group relations work.

Friday Mar 22, 2024
Episode 4: Mary McRae
Friday Mar 22, 2024
Friday Mar 22, 2024
For this episode our guest interview is with Dr. Mary B. McRae. Mary is a retired New York University (NYU) professor of Applied Psychology. She developed the "Working with Differences" group relations conferences at NYU and has directed and worked on staff at group relations conferences in the US and internationally. Mary is also a psychoanalytically oriented psychotherapist, consultant, executive coach and author. in this interview Mary and I have a meaningful conversation about her group relations work origins, her innovations/adaptations in conferences, our connections, and the importance of expanding the group relations work model to incorporate a focus on race, culture, social identities and authority and power.

Thursday Mar 07, 2024
Episode 3: Charla Hayden
Thursday Mar 07, 2024
Thursday Mar 07, 2024
The guest interview for this episode is with Charla Hayden, M. A. Charla is a freelance organizational consultant with many years of experience. She has also been on the Boards of the A. K. Rice Institute (AKRI) and GREX (an affiliate of AKRI). Charla has a long and distinguished career in group relations work; she has consulted on and directed many group relations conferences. In this interview Charla and I have an interesting and lively discussion about her origins in group relations work, her philosophy about conferences and directing, and how group relations has impacted her life.

Saturday Feb 24, 2024
Episode 2: Kathy White
Saturday Feb 24, 2024
Saturday Feb 24, 2024
In this first guest interview of Season 2, I have an interesting and insightful conversation with Dr. Kathleen Pogue White, who is an Educator, Reflective and Group Relations Practitioner, and a Clinical Psychologist and Psychoanalyst. In this interview, Kathy shares her group relations origins and lineage, including our connections and her reflections about the work and creativity.

Friday Feb 23, 2024
Friday Feb 23, 2024
Welcome to Season 2 of the GRI Beyond the Boundaries Podcast! The title and theme of Season 2 is: Capturing the Legacy and Future of Group Relations. We have some wonderful guests and the first episode is an Introduction with Manny Molin and me, Ellen Short, in which we discuss our work together as host and producer and provide some history of Season 1 and share what is to come with Season 2.
We hope you enjoy listening to all of the episodes in Season 2!

Tuesday Feb 15, 2022
Final Episode
Tuesday Feb 15, 2022
Tuesday Feb 15, 2022
On this final episode of season one, we have some big news shared about the podcast! We also share our reflections and learnings from this season and talk through plans for what season two will look like! Tune in and join us at the table for our last episode of season one!

Monday Nov 15, 2021
Beyond the Boundaries With Evangeline Sarda
Monday Nov 15, 2021
Monday Nov 15, 2021
The newest episode of Beyond the Boundaries just released with special guest: Evangeline Sarda! Evangeline is a lawyer, professor, conference director, and board member of GRI.In this episode, Evangeline shares her involvement with Group Relations. We reflect on the past year and a half of virtual conference life and explore the gains and losses as a result of COVID-19 and having to adjust to doing the work from home.
Also! The conversation heats up with Critical Race Theory! You won’t want to miss this one!

Friday Oct 15, 2021
Exploring Group Relations With Rene Molenkamp
Friday Oct 15, 2021
Friday Oct 15, 2021
In this episode, we have our very first guest join the show! The Executive Director of Group Relations International, Rene Molenkamp. In this episode, we engage in a conversation with Rene centering around the history, present time, and future of Group Relations work. Tune in because you won't want to miss this one!